====== Jack-Session v2.0 - brainstorm ====== ===== jack-session v1.0 ===== Links and references to the current 1.0 API. * [[http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/WalkThrough/Dev/JackSession|Developer Walk-through]] - the JACK-Session API * [[http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/WalkThrough/User/jack_session|Basic Usage info]] * [[http://hochstrom.endofinternet.org/files/pyjacksm-cast01.ogv|Example-usage Screencast]] * [[http://jackaudio.org/files/docs/html/session_8h.html|Session API documentation]] - doxygen * [[http://jackaudio.org/files/docs/html/group__SessionClientFunctions.html|Session Client Function API]] - doxygen * [[http://tangostudio.tuxfamily.org/jacksession?lang=en|End-User documentation]] by TangoStudio. ===== Brainstorm ===== Be welcome, to add your opinion and idea below. \\ Having tried to use jack-session for a while, my conclusion is: \\ * It needs Session **Load without application-quit**, thus I'm distinguishing here \\ between **"quit" =>** exit application and **"close" =>** close documents without application-exit. \\ * It needs Session **Close without Save** (this won't exit (most) applications) \\ * Beeing able to load multiple sessions (at once) appears bad, is an error-source \\ * Conditions where connection-restoration fails - must be known (e.g. apps are not allowed to auto-connect jack-ports) \\ * sometimes eventually you don't want a JS-capable app to be part of the current session, although you're running it at the same time. JS should offer a flag for this (set by jack-client-app on user request): session_client->part_of_active_session = false; //(default is true, of course) \\ ===== Introduce new events ===== // extend EventType: enum JackSessionEventType { ... JackSessionCloseAndLoadNew = 4, // load a new session, without quitting applications (if possible) JackSessionCloseWithoutQuit = 5, // close session-document without quitting applications JackSessionCloseWithQuit = 6 // close the session and quit everything } // extend jack-session-client implementations: // if( ev->type == JackSessionCloseAndLoadNew ){ // close current document(s), eventually ask the user, if he/she // would like to save first (but **don't quit** the application) // then load new session-document(s) } if( ev->type == JackSessionClose ){ // close current document(s), eventually ask the user, if he/she // would like to save first } ===== Replace the command_line with an appID (cross-platform) ===== - **saving a command line with the session is a very bad idea.** My suggestion: The jack-session-commander (e.g. qjackctl) has a small (operating system specific) database. \\ The contained **entries would overwrite the command_line, if existend**. Thus backwards compatible. The database would be queried by appID: It would have the **fields: appID, executable, generic_parameters ** \\ The database can be processed with simple split(),trim() operations. One entry per line. \\ \\ One single entry would look like: (fist word is the appID, **not** the executable name, although it may be equal. appID==amSynth; exe==/usr/bin/amSynth; param:loadFile==-f $arg:loadFile; param:uuid==-u $arg:uuid ; param:autoconnect==-A $arg:autoconnect; param:with_gui==-w $arg:with_gui; \\ On windows, the entry might look like: appID==amSynth; exe==c:\programs\amSynth; param:loadFile==/f $arg:loadFile; param:uuid==/u $arg:uuid ; param:autoconnect==/A $arg:autoconnect; param:with_gui==/w $arg:with_gui; \\ jack_session_event would be filled by the JS-client as: jsEvent->appID = "amSynth"; jsEvent->appParams = " loadFile1==%s; autoconnect==%s " %( sessionFile, false ); jsEvent->loadFile = sessionFile; The jack-session-manager would search the database for the appID and generate an appropriate (os-specific) command_line. \\ This would also allow different command lines, by assigning different appIDs to a single application (amSynthWithoutGui, amSynthWithGui, amSynthInGreen,...) \\ // in struct _jack_session_event { // make the command_line member deprecated // introduce the following members instead // AppID : usually equal to application name, without path info char *appID; char *appParams; // additional prefered Application Parameters (abstracted, to be OS-independent) char loadFile; // file to load (with extension, without path info, could contain a simple string, with more files to load.) } \\ \\ ===== (Multi) Session Handling ===== \\ \\ Can multi-session handling work reliably ? \\ Is it too complicated ? \\ Can a single-session be open multiple times ? \\ \\ The current behavior, to me, feels strange and unexpected: Opening a running session (twice) opens another set of windows. What's that ? Do I have a "doubled" session now ? It is very opaque, unclear, which window belongs to which session. Is that how it should be, is that what we'd want ? \\ \\ An idea:\\ Add a sessionID. \\ The client would allow selecting the session it belongs to (with a drop-down-box). This would allow multiple sessions to be open. Every session should have an associated color (light, water-color) and a short description string (user-assigned), the applications can use to visualize dependency to a particular session.\\ \\ For example I could have a "light-green" session with hydrogen and qsynth and a "light-orange" session with audacity and lv2host running at the same time. \\ \\ In qjackctl, there would be an option "create new session" with a dialog, where I would be able to select a color, enter a string, for a new session. \\ \\ **Store connections:** \\ * Every saved sessions stores all connections currently active (when hitting save). \\ **Restoration of connections** in a multi-session environment. \\ * Start with no connections, nothing connected (keep existing connections ? rather not - they could conflict ?) * Load first session => connections of __applications belonging to__ that particular session __are restored__ (only) * Load a second session => the same * __Restore additionally__ saved connections __if the user requests__, from an already loaded session. \\ Every app has a drop-down-box, where one of the loaded sessions can be selected, i.o. to become a member. \\ \\ ===== Jack-Session - Best Practice Section ===== \\ \\ We need a **jack-session-api best-practice** section. This would contain hints as: \\ * dont's use paths in the command_line (amSynth vs. /usr/bin/amSynth ) \\ * don't use single character parameters in the command_line ==> bad:\\ params -a=yes and -A=no is the same on some platforms, rather --autoconnect=yes, --artefacts=no \\ * with the session, applications should **restore their window position** and state (maximized, curled up, minimized, etc.) \\ * apps are not allowed to auto-connect jack-ports, when using jack-session (user option) \\ * apps are allowed to save to another folder **additionally** (for backup purposes) \\ \\ ===== Comments and additional ideas ===== * Qjackctl - sesssion: save, works as 'save as' now. It would be nice if it would be possible to have also the opportunity to hit just 'save'. * Qjackctl should support infra clients, like pyjacksm does atm. * It would be nice if you could load a JackSession Manager (like pyjacksm) with different configuration files (now only .pyjacksmrc) * It will be valuable if you could load a session via the command line / BASH script. * It would be nice to be able to load more then one session at once...